Pre-Season Chat

The pre-season is here and we know you all are super pumped for the next SuperCoach season.

Here’s your forum to chat all things 2019 SuperCoach.

PS: you can find v1.0 here

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Site co-founder and all round SC tragic, Nick no longer writes too much these days but hosts the SC Report each week and looks after most of the site administration.

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SupercoachGodsBeNice

Oooh now you know it’s getting closer to the start of the season when V2.0 is up 😆

DCE2011

TLT only a week away.

CSI

Help needed have Fifita and Marty as FR
Which would be best back up prop out of
Lodge. / Vaughn. / Joe. O. /. J Wallace. / Lane. /. McQuire. / Alvero
Thoughts please

CQ Bulldog

I reckon Napa and Glasby can potentially score close to these if Glasby is playing lock. Lodge and Vaughn are the safest on that list in my opinion.

DCE2011

Lodge for mine.

Sherzza

Alvaro straight up no – will not increase in minutes now Paulo is back unless there is injury – still not sure if he makes it in the first grade squad – peni terepo, morera, nbrown, paulo, tim mannah I see are better players but I’m just a biased eels fan so he probably in there somewhere Lodge – not sure if there is much upside we have seen what he is capable of, how much more improvement in him is there? At 500k better options Joe O – probably the best of this bunch but how much can he… Read more »

Sherzza

Didn’t mention vaughn I like him but I wouldnt be paying that awkward price on him – extra 10k you could get a milf – and moylan for less.

Rizza

Lodge for me. I just think he improved all season and will step it up even more this year with McGuire, Sims & Thaiday all gone. Interesting stats for Lodge last year if you’re the type of person that looks for things like this. He played 24 games and if you break the season into thirds you get these juicy looking stats. Games 1-8: Points – 341, Ave – 42.63, Mins – 355, Ave Mins – 44.38, PPM – 0.96 Games 9-16: Points – 414, Ave – 51.75, Mins – 390, Ave Mins – 48.75, PPM – 1.06 Games 17-24:… Read more »

TurkeySnow

the last 17-24 games a few of those Lodge came from the bench. Ala Bennett playing with the side. He still played bug min but could be due to tired defense??

Rizza

You might be onto something there. I just went and made an “on the field” heat map for Lodge and all 3 tries came in games where he didn’t start. 2 tries were pretty much just after he came onto the field and the 3rd one was scored in the 79th minute. One thing I did notice though was that for the games where he started, most of the times when he was replaced it was by Jo O which meant that Jo was scoring points during the “tired defence” stage so it’ll be interesting to see how it affects… Read more »

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

I’ve seen a lot of Lodge and Ofa mentions lately, how do we see the minutes being distributed throughout the pack (starting and bench)?

At this stage, I’m thinking that all the Broncos middle forwards are W&S candidates until we have a fair idea of their minutes, particularly TPJ (if he’s eased back in or if he plays big minutes straight away and how that affects Lodge and Ofa).

WeninRome

I think you’re right, but I’ll probably still take the punt on Joe O. He’s priced at a point that makes him easy to trade before Round 3 and the DPP is very handy.

Bethany_B

plus I did some calculations I mentioned in another comment and it’s very likely Ofa gets at least 60 minutes, especially early on, as Gillett will likely not play 80 on the edge right away and Fifita doesn’t play 80 there anyway, necessitating Glenn to cover them both (or Fifita, if Glenn starts, Glenn looked really good in the trial).

I’m all on board the Joe O Express.

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

Ofa will be getting at least 60 minutes? Care to expound on these calculations.

Fifita’s more than capable of playing 80, but in all likelihood, he won’t be starting in R1, and thus won’t have the opportunity to play 80. Su’A will be there to cover the edge/middle as well.

Bethany_B

240 mins between 5 players (8,10,13 and 2 bench middles, at least that’s what I’m 90% sure Seibold will run with since he’s got so many edge players) The bench middles are likely to get 25-30 mins each (at least until TPJ and Gillett are fully fit),, considering that it’s likely to be at least one rookie, plus a shoehorned edge forward like Su’A or Glenn (who is actually decent in the middle) Either way, they won’t get more than 55-60 mins combined. So let’s take their rotation. 8. Lodge – Likely 50 mins, let’s say he gets 55 mins… Read more »

Catfish

I think TPJ even if fit for round 1 will find himself around the 50 minute mark for the most part. Gillett will build slowly too, especially if he’s now playing at lock only. I could see Lodge playing 55 and JoeO being 60 or even 65 initially, and dropping back slowly as TPJ, Gillett and Su’A build fitness. The edges though could be a bit of a mess… but we could have Glenn and Fifita starting initially. Wait and see is a very valid strat but I too will probably take a punt on JoeO as well for the… Read more »

Sherzza

Hope you guys go well with it – although I am under the impression that TPJ would take more minutes than JoeO, (assumption that TPJ be at full fitness say rd 2-3), something else to consider alot of the predicted broncos lineups have staggs, sua and fifita on the bench however historically seibold carries 3 middles and 1 utility. I guess if seibold uses his bench differently with the broncos I can see a case for Joe O, but I can’t see him outplaying TPJ when both fit to steal more minutes

Catfish

He’s asking Fifita and Su’A to play some minutes in the middle so I’d say he’s looking at getting Su’A, Fifita, Glenn, Gillett all in the mix with maybe Carrigan/Flegler (and probably Haas later). The fact that Gillett, TPJ, Su’A and even Glenn to a certain extent had a disrupted preseason should bode well for the minutes of Lodge, JoeO and Fifita in the opening rounds. Seibold had the twins and a not 100% fit Murray to handle last year through the middle and 2×80 min edge forwards. We all know the twins don’t have big motors, whereas Lodge and… Read more »

Catfish

Oh, Seibold also confirms all those guys are basically in the top 17 in the post-match presser – https://www.broncos.com.au/news/2019/03/03/press-conference-broncos-trial/

Sherzza

Awesome makes my job a bit easier at least with one team! thanks haha

Bethany_B

The problem with that is that Seibold doesn’t have that many bench middles but has a LOT of bench edge players (Gillett, Fifita, Glenn, Su’A). In the calculations I did on the likely minutes, I assumed that one of the edge players will spell the middle for 20 mins and even that left a good 60 minutes for Ofa, and potentially more while Gillett and TPJ get to full fitness.

Bethany_B

I did some calculations a while ago, and my guess is that Ofa gets 60 mins (he’s got the biggest motor out of him, Lodge and TPJ), Lodge gets 50, TPJ gets 60 when fit, and the 2 bench middles get 25 each, and that was accounting for either Glenn or Gillett playing 20 mins in the middle. Just remember, the Broncos lost Thaiday, McGuire and K Sims and haven’t signed any forwards, someone has to pick up the slack and Ofa by far looks the best in terms of having enough motor to play big minutes, neither Ofa or… Read more »

TurkeySnow

I think they are watches as well. Read a comment saying maybe Gillett moves to 13 now, from Glen. Could force TPJ back to the bench and into that impact role. Dfaf/Syua could play decent min but I think that game showed Dfaf just not ready yet. In regards to Lodge and Jo, I think Lodge is the better pick due to his size and impact, also has a nice offload. Was great in the first hlf the other night. Jo is just a little to small to start at frf for me. But can play decent min. I think… Read more »

WeninRome

Hopefully this speeds up the site for you all now. Please let us know via email if there are still issues.

Guns-NRookies

I scrolled down the page & read the comments then when I logged in some comments disappeared

Monty Burns

the site now automatically nests replies under each main post. You can see how many replies are under each post by the little green number and arrow on the RHS

Time For Plan B

Let’s just hope he can see this comment

Guns-NRookies

Haha worked it out

WoolyScore

Hi guys, question for Android SC app owners. How does one trade a player and swap an existing dpp from my team into it. For example I want to trade drinkwater out and move my existing CTW of Allan into FB. Then choose a new CTW.
Only way I can do it so far is drop both players and draft Allan back in.

Rizza

It’s the same on the website. I remember it happening last year and the reason I got for it was because we have unlimited trades at the moment it’s not necessary to be able to swap players between positions. It’s annoying for the moment but it will revert to normality once the first lock out comes into effect.

WoolyScore

Thanks for sharing that useful information  Rizza. I had an inkling that was the reason but thought it was just my own clumsiness at work. A bit annoying I agree.

Sams seals

Thats the only way atm, once the seaosn starts it will work properly.

auspng

Hey guys. Looking for a cheap FR reserve and I’ve narrowed my search down to two guys:

TU Hetherington
&
TD Napa

Both are (probably) starters for their respective teams and they both have similar prices. The way things look with my team, whoever I decide on will be in my 17. Who would y’all pick?

Bethany_B

Neither, just go for a rookie like Carrigan or Kerr if they get named. Hetherington is a trap and I’m not sure Napa will get that many minutes, if the talk of moving RFM into the middle is true.

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

Can confirm that RFM will be playing on an edge, and not likely to be rotating through the middle, at all. Napa’s looking for more minutes this season and he should get them.

Even if Carrigan of Kerr get named, their minutes won’t be set, and neither will have strong job security, whereas as long as there aren’t any more sordid video leaks, Napa will start for as long as you need him to make a profit.

Seagles

How can you confirm ?

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

Because Pay has stated so.

Sherzza

I would pick Napa for security – but currently have 2 NPRs sitting on my front row bench (unless carrigan from the broncos plays)

Sherzza

scrap that haas and NPR bench front row – rather spend that extra 90k on a ctw or 2nd row

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

Napa, without question.

He’s pretty much guaranteed to start all season, and one of the reasons why he moved to the Dogs was to take on more responsibility/more minutes, as he did hit a plateau at the Roosters (some would say he was on a downtrend). Whereas Hetherington will only start as long as Kikau’s out, and even then he has the likes of Fuimaono, Sele, and Ellis that could take minutes off him in the meantime.

rooster1

Morning gentlemen. May i ask who was goal kicking for eels on Saturday night

TurkeySnow

Moses

Storm-in-a-teacup

I’ve currently got Guler in there.

TurkeySnow

I am looking for peoples honest opinions on the following players, I have given my ressoning for each pick: 1. Sam Burgess – (20%, dual, priced at a 59av) – I feel in that tricky FRF spot Surgess being dual, playing close to 80min on an edge and middle each week, looking fit and eager for a new season under Bennett (who has mentored him playing for England and generally gets the best out of his forwards) without Angus and with Sutton yet another year older could be the main attacking forward in the side. Plus had a down year… Read more »

LOTE

What would be the point of putting Lodge as your 4th FRF?

TurkeySnow

Well he is my 3rd atm behind Tapow and Fifi, Sam, Lane and Ipap in 2rf atm

Janty

Bennett saying Allen won’t play Round 1 after scoring a hat trick.

TurkeySnow

Old news, Old Ploy, Same Bennett!!

94Raiders

Bennett would say the World is flat if he thought it would help his team.

Canary Yellow

Has there been any word on how long Lawrence is supposed to be out for?

Thought Garner looked solid on the weekend.

Canary Yellow

Woah! Never mind. Was hoping for an update on that minor injury that kept him out of the trial, now I see he has just broken his jaw at training.

BunnyAllStars

10-12 weeks was early mail as bad break

CSI

About 8 to 10 I think I read

BT

Didn’t see much of the trials on the weekend. Seems that Allan (Wayne’s comments) and Drinkwater (injury) were the main casualties?

Monty Burns

Wayne is just reducing hype on the kid. Expect him to line up. Wayne is using the media.

BT

Really hope that’s right. As does everyone!

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

I know that a lot of people think Wayne’s bluffing, but I wouldn’t be so sure.

It makes sense for Burns to stay in first grade – he can play on the wing while GI eases his way back from injury in the centres, and then when he’s ready to move back to fullback, Johnston shifts to the wing and Burns moves back into the centres.

I’m hoping I’m wrong and that Allan is named for R1, but I have a feeling that won’t be the case.

BT

Hope you’re wrong too haha It’s going to be a mad reshuffle, even if only 2 of these cheapies fall by the wayside

Eels4life

James Seggy 289K
Any takers
Has he come to terms with the sharks

MadeInHolland

If J. Brailey gets moves elsewhere. If not it’s probably more of the same of last season.

TurkeySnow

I didn’t think the Nrl registered his contract and BBrailey is injured (broken Finger)

The Pretender

Not unless he has suddenly jumped Brailey.

Guns-NRookies

I wouldn’t be suprised even if Seggy gets registered that he misses the 14 spot to Flanno JR as he covers the halves & has spent preseason filling in at 9. A straight swap & less disruptive than Capewell to Centre Dugan to FB & Moylan into half.

MadeInHolland

Alright will all the cheapie carnage as everyone is calling it, I need a hooker for just over 500k. I currently have Macca and Mahoney atm but thinking maybe I could go Holland and Mahoney to use that extra 80k on getting Allan up to Momirovski. Friend has also piqued my interest. Thoughts?

Defib

Gambling with BSmith myself as second hooker. Gambling that he will get hopefully 40mins a game and be a slow burner.

Eels4life

Yes worth the gamble but how does he see 40 mins in the storm team

Defib

I’m thinking he might get 40mins if he is spelling CS9 at Hooker while Smith takes on the ball playing Lock role. Also wondering if CS9 may well not be played for the full 80 this season which will added a few mins to BSmith.

MadeInHolland

Hopefully, he can turn his game into a Tavaga type where he spends 30 minutes at lock and 20 at hooker. I’m not convinced on BSmith yet, but I may have to take a gamble on him or Roache if W.Smith is on the bench at the eels.

BunnyAllStars

I’m with you

The Pretender

McCullough is the 2nd best option at HK imo this season. Wont average as much as Smith or Cook thats for sure, but in terms of value he is absolutely underpriced by at least 5 points.

MadeInHolland

Safe 55-60 points each week. Which at the start of the season is crucial for me.

Defib

Looking at the first 5 weeks for the Broncs, reckon Macca is pretty much set for at least 50ppg just from tackles. 😉 Away to Storm, Home to Cows, Home to Dragons, Away to Roosters and then home to Tigers.

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

On the topic of Friend, you could argue he’s actually of better value than Macca.

He was dealing with a cracked sternum that limited him during the first half of the season, and then near the back end of the year he was hitting around 60 points per game in B+P (that’s before we take into account his creative stats).

I still don’t think you can go past Mahoney for value at hooker if he’s getting 80-mins – he’s 10 points underpriced, at least.

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

To add to this, in the latest trial, Mahoney had 48 tackles, and if I recall correctly he had at least one forced-dropout and a couple of tackle-breaks.

MadeInHolland

Friend averaged 69 from 19-25 last season when there was no bench hooker. If there is no bench hooker he is in for me, has a higher ceiling than macca with creative stats and higher base.

The Pretender

Definitely a good option.

Shtanky

should we be worried about the possible signing of isaac luke/running will smith on their bench as a utility flock? we all want mahony getting those mins so we have him as an option at hok but there are some concerns there?

Shtanky

^^scratch this flock, just reading luke has come to terms with warriors, but still wondering about will smith as a bench utility?

I don't pray to God; I pray to DCE

If Smith is named as a bench utility, it could potentially drop Mahoney’s value (I wouldn’t immediately take it as Mahoney wouldn’t play 80, as Smith could be a utility in case of injuries/HIA).

Mahoney played the full-80 in the weekend, so you could take that as BA prepping him to do that this season.

Flasher

Momi is no guarantee at this stage. I would sit tight and just keep it in mind as an option for next week.

MadeInHolland

That’s it. Don’t want to rip my team apart at the moment just want to be aware of my options if things don’t go my way.

The little General

Are there any stats on the Warriors/ Tigers game anywhere?

OnTheBus

Lasted 2 days lol , cant go coldturkey . About the NPR theories , what i’m concerned about is there are heaps of back up options this year compared to last year where you could run with 19 for the run home . This year my thoughts are we will need back up in basically every position and create PODs that way , sit out say ted one week and play a turbo or be able to stack second row and have an option to leave out a lolo and play a fitzy or kikau . I’m still going to… Read more »

Guns-NRookies

I’m still aiming for 25 named for round 1. Then I’ll assess if they are quality earners & I’m reasonably confident they can hold their spot for x amount of rounds rather than plodders then I’ll go with that classic strategy. If I only get 23/24 & where I want them then I may run the NPR strategy on the provision the 1 or 2 players I’m looking at as an NPR are at the highest point of that club’s depth chart & wont be a one-game wonder. I ran the NPR risk in 2017 & it worked for me.… Read more »

OnTheBus

I will let TLT decide it for me, GL for the season

rockafella

Everybody was freaking out last year as well …
Rookies will be okay..
No need to panic yet

Guns-NRookies

I agree Rocka. Im more concerned about getting my C choice right & not copping another Round 1 Katoa broken jaw or GI ACL (have neither) rather than which strategy I adopt.

Defib

Following on from my reply to  MadeInHolland re-BSmith as my second hooker I am left with either of the following:

1: Macca / Kapow / JoeO
2: Cook / JoeO / Surgess
3: Cook / Surgess / Lane

Already have Fifi, Crichton, JArrow, Murray and ?Fitzy locked in to my forwards but ant quite decide (although TLT will most likely have a big influence on how this finalises).

MadeInHolland

I like #3 out of those. Joe O is a W&S for me, Lane should get more minutes with Ma’u being injured to start the year. Could you go JoeO to Vaughan in #2? I like him more than JoeO atm.

Eels4life

2 or 3 for me.
Watched the Eels trial and can’t decide on Lane. How involved does he get at the edge. Tough one as if Jo O gets mins could score well with his work rate

AceVentura

Number 3. Surgess looks to be getting back to his best imo and should play 80 hopefully. Lane looks good on the edge, should get 60 mins and will have good attacking stats.

Defib

Thanks. Some food for thought there. Especially on the Vaughan front.

In line with that, any love for Frizell at 4% ownership? Heard some word that he might get JDBs Lock role.

MadeInHolland

I have him in my team in the draft mode due to that fact. Not sure I would personally go with him at 520k but not a bad option if he plays #13. Could average 60+ at #13 but not sure on minutes.

BunnyAllStars

2 for me

Flasher

3 for me mate.

I am currently running both Smith’s FWIW. Junior can sit on my bench and hopefully make some cash while providing back up to the dinosaur if anything untoward happens.

Eels4life

Luke has come to terms with the Warriors and is staying officially, not new news but rules out Roache

The Pretender

Also gives us a very solid option in Mahoney as a back up if required. Averaged 47.5 with just 2 LT’s as attacking stats, I think with a guaranteed role, full offseason as the number 1 option and the way HIA’s work these days Will Smith will only take minutes off him 1/3 games type of thing.

The kid is 20, improving and BA clearly likes him. Definitely prefer getting Mahoney this year atm.

Eels4life

Still looking at running Cook and Smith to start the season. I know it is a lot of money but come round three I have options to downgrade and if I run with Holland in CTW he can be moved around and pick up a firing CTW. I agree that a 80 min hooker is a lot better option then say a bench hooker with unknown minutes. As you say he is only just starting out and will get better as the season goes on

CSI

Just downgraded Vaughan to Totola which always me to move out one of cheap ctw that won’t make it and put CNK into ctw
Have Ted as fullback can now get instead of Vaughn
Moylon Or Widdop thoughts please

MyYfH8sSC

Totola will probably go back to the bench when George gets back.

The little General

I’ve gone Moylan purely because he’s cheaper.

AceVentura

Moylan for me.

The Pretender

Don’t downgrade Ted if you can help it. I think he is set and forget best option FB (tied with a fit Turbo).

Flasher

Moylan gets my vote. Undervalued and an easier draw than the dragons IMO. Both could score about the same.

Sidestep

So after the weekend I’ve now decided to run Teddy & Ponga at the back to start the year and run SJ at 5/8th.

Plan will be to downgrade one of the rookie halves, move Ponga back to 5/8th and bring in turbo at fb.

Doesnt really help me for the byes but meh, so much can change between now and then.

MadeInHolland

Other than Hopa and Turbo (if he doesn’t get picked for origin somehow) there are no good options at FB for rd 12. Unless you move a CNK or Gutho back there. I’m not too concerned about rd 12 for Fbs as I doubt anybody will have a decent option there. The same thing goes for the halves except for Calker and maybe Moses this year.

roosterfan1337

When is turbo due back?

Sidestep

Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s named for round 1

Flasher

Your guess is as good as mine. He could be available for rd1 if you believe the rumours about Des playing games. Going to have to wait until next week unfortunately for a definitive answer.

The Pretender

Anyone else replying to posts but noticing their comments are not sticking (TU I suppose, since your replies wont stick if you agree ahahahaha)

Flasher

Yeah mate, same here. I have replied to a few posts which show up in the ‘comments’ section but aren’t showing as a reply to the questions asked.

I am on Android using my own WiFi, which had been working fine when all others were having issues with timeframes for screens to load etc. Now it’s my turn to have issues with the same problems mentioned previously.

Magpies4Eva007

I’m on Android tablet too and it has been atrocious this morning. Took me 90 minutes to bring up this thread after getting numerous “error 504 timeout” messages. Now that I’m in, it takes up to 2 minutes to jump to the next page. Unfortunately no access to email so cannot inform Admins.

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